No, the Eagles Should Not Trade Nick Foles Now

No, the Eagles Should Not Trade Nick Foles Now

You may have heard the chatter on talk radio or in some shallow corner of the internet. Rich Hoffman wrote what I’m sure is a thoughtful piece (behind a subscriber wall) on the topic today for the Daily News.

Since Nick Foles failed to overtake Michael Vick in the Eagles’ quarterback competition, the team should just trade him.

Hofmann seems to believe Foles’ value will never be higher, and since nobody thinks the Birds are contenders this year anyway, the organization might as well cash in their chips so to speak. I suppose the logic for others is Foles had his shot, he lost, so Chip Kelly should pass him over in favor of Matt Barkley for the next opportunity.

Any of which seems incredibly short-sighted. But just for starters, where does this idea Foles has such tremendous trade value come from?

Perhaps this is a case where people have a tendency to overrate their own players. I can’t imagine there is a front office willing to surrender more than or even as much as the third-round pick the Eagles used on Foles last year, not for a largely unproven quarterback with one career win in the NFL , a quarterback who just lost an open competition at that. If he wasn’t worth that pick to teams in 2012, what has he done to demonstrate he’s worth it now?

Even if a head coach or GM sees some promise in Foles, or they’re simply desperate for a QB, would they actually be able to get the kid ready to start by Week 1? We’re not talking about some veteran who’s been around the block a few times, just hand him the playbook and send him out to the field. That sounds like a surefire way to ruin a young player to me. With a developing player like Foles, ideally you'd want him to go through camp and learn the offense first. And if he’s not going to be ready to play right away this year, why is anybody giving something up for him then?

That just doesn’t seem like a realistic option to me, short of giving Foles away – which I can’t imagine why anybody would want to do that.

Oh, sure, Vick is the starter right now. We’ll no doubt ride a wave of excitement leading up to September 9, with talk of how perfectly he fits Chip’s offense, what an amazing athlete is, how he was able to reinvent himself once again. The optimism around the Birds will feel like a breath of fresh air to be honest.

But how soon until Vick is injured again, and the next man has to step up? How soon before Vick begins to get sloppy with the football, when defenses start figuring him out?

Maybe neither of those scenarios plays out this time. Maybe Vick finally has everything figured out.

Maybe, but history suggests otherwise. The 30 snaps Vick has played during the preseason are not enough to erase 10 years of a career. The Eagles need to have another quarterback ready

From what I’ve seen, that’s not Barkley. I’m not sure what his future holds, but right now I see a kid who is clearly a few steps behind Vick and Foles. He’s made some nice throws, but it’s not like he’s been chewing up defenses – not at practice, not against backups using vanilla schemes in exhibition games. The game still moves a bit too fast for him right now. There is no sense in rushing him into action this season. He’s not ready. Maybe he never will be.

So why shouldn’t Foles get another opportunity if the situation comes to that? It’s not like he played himself out of the job. Vick has been explosive, nearly flawless, whereas Foles has merely looked capable. Capable is good though. If he gets on the field and the offense starts clicking, Kelly may never be able to pull him out of there.

It doesn’t have to be over for Foles in Philadelphia. If there were a team that was willing to knock their socks off, of course Howie Roseman has to listen. I don’t envision Foles is that much of a commodity around the NFL though, perhaps less so in August than he would be during the offseason. Plus, the Eagles will be in real trouble when it doesn’t work out with Vick and they only have Barkley to turn to.

Keep Foles around. At the very least, he is a competent backup. Who knows, he could be more. Chances are nobody is giving up a valuable draft pick for Nick Foles at this stage, so what is the advantage to moving him exactly?

Former Flyers coach Bill Dineen dies at 84

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The Associated Press

Former Flyers coach Bill Dineen dies at 84

Bill Dineen, who had the distinction of being Eric Lindros’ first NHL coach, died early Saturday morning at his home in Lake George, New York. He was 84.
 
“Such a wonderful person, who got along with everybody,” Flyers president Paul Holmgren said. “I never played for him, but worked with him in scouting. Just a great guy.” 
 
Dineen succeeded Holmgren as head coach during the 1991-92 season.
 
“When I got fired, a lot of our guys were squeezing their sticks,” Holmgren said. “They were tight. It shouldn’t be hard to play the game. When things got tough, they were a little under stress, Billy coming in, he loosened things up.”
 
Dineen coached parts of two seasons here from 1991-92 through the 1992-93 season, which was Lindros’ first year as a Flyer.
 
“Bill treated everyone with the utmost respect,” Holmgren said. “He was the perfect guy for Eric coming in here. That respect goes both ways. He was almost a grandfatherly figure for Eric at the time.”

Dineen served as a scout with the organization from 1990-91 until succeeding Holmgren as coach. He then returned to a scouting role in 1993-94 and remained with the Flyers as a scout through 1996-97.
 
Mark Howe, one of the greatest Flyers defensemen of all-time, played for Dineen as an 18-year-old rookie in the WHA with the Houston Aeros (1973-74), and also had him during his final year as a Flyer in 1991-92.
 
“He was one of the best people I ever met in the game of hockey,” Howe said. “He was a real players coach. Of all the guys I ever played for. Maybe a little Paul Holmgren, too. 
 
“If you lost the game, he was one of the very few people if you went for a bite to eat or a beer after the game you lost, you actually felt poorly for letting the coach down.”
 
Howe said Dineen’s teams weren’t all about skill.
 
“He picked people that were about ‘the team,'” Howe said. “He made me earn my spot that first year in Houston.”
 
Dineen posted a 60-60-20 record with the Flyers. His son, Kevin, played on both of those teams before assuming the captaincy from Rick Tocchet in 1993-94. 
 
A gentleman behind the bench, Bill Dineen was much the same person as a player. A former right wing who spent the majority of his six-year playing career with the Detroit Red Wings, he had just 122 penalty minutes in 322 games, scoring 51 goals and 95 points.
 
“I knew Billy for a long time," Flyers senior vice president Bob Clarke said. "He was a player and coach at the minor league level and the NHL level, but I think more importantly he was a really, really good hockey person and really good person.” 

Dineen won two WHA titles coaching the Aeros and two Stanley Cups as a player with the Red Wings. A member of the AHL Hall of Fame, Dineen also coached the Adirondack Red Wings from 1983 through 1988-89.
 
Three of his five sons — Gordon, Peter and Kevin — played in the NHL. Sons Shawn and Jerry had their roots in the AHL. 
 
“His boys are scattered all over the map,” Holmgren said. “Just a tremendous hockey family.”
 
Dineen is part of Flyer folklore trivia. He, along with Keith Allen and Vic Stasiuk, were all Red Wings teammates during 1953-53. They also shared something else in common: all three later  became Flyers head coaches.

Instant Replay: No. 1 Villanova 74, No. 23 Notre Dame 66

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The Associated Press

Instant Replay: No. 1 Villanova 74, No. 23 Notre Dame 66

BOX SCORE

NEWARK, N.J. – Villanova wasn’t ready to surrender its No. 1 ranking that quickly.

Despite trailing No. 23 Notre Dame for the first 30-plus minutes of action Saturday, Josh Hart and the Wildcats kept the Fighting Irish at striking distance and stormed ahead late for a 74-66 win in the Never Forget Tribute Classic at the Prudential Center.

The Wildcats wouldn’t take their first lead of the game until the nine-minute mark of the second half, which would put the teams on the seesaw for the next few minutes of action. Trailing the Fighting Irish, 62-61, with over six minutes remaining in the game, Villanova went on a 12-5 run to close out its 10th win in as many tries.

Hart continued his spectacular senior season, pouring in a career-high 37 points, pulling down 11 rebounds and dishing out four assists, all team highs. Jalen Brunson, Mikal Bridges and Eric Paschall each chipped in eight points behind Hart. 

Colson Bonzie and Matt Farrelll each scored 18 points each for the Fighting Irish.  

Turning point
Leading 68-66 with under two minutes remaining, a Kris Jenkins three pointer clanked off the back of the rim and fell to the ground as a loose ball. Jalen Brunson corralled the ball before it went out of bounds and was fouled by Matt Farrell. Brunson hit both free throws to extend the Wildcats’ lead to four. 

Bonzie missed an open look at a three on the other end and Darryl Reynolds was fouled after grabbing the rebound off the miss. Reynolds sunk both free throws to put the game on ice.

Big men on campus
Villanova: Josh Hart 

Hart kept Villanova in striking distance in the first half, scoring over half of his team’s points (19) and chipping in four rebounds and three assists. Hart continued his dominance in the second half with another 18 points and seven rebounds. The senior was 10 of 14 from the field, three of four from deep and a perfect 14 for 14 from the free throw line.  

Notre Dame: Matt Farrell

The Bridgewater, New Jersey, native had an impressive homecoming. Farrell gave Villanova’s defense fits all afternoon with his scoring and playmaking abilities out of the pick-and-roll, as he finished with 18 points on 8 of 13 shooting from the field and six assists.  

Inside the box score
• Both teams struggled from deep. Notre Dame shot 6 of 22 and Villanova hit 4 of its 16 attempts

• Notre Dame led for 30:54 of playing time.

• A lot of the game was played in the half court, as both teams combined for just 13 fast-break points.

Up next
Villanova returns to the Pavilion for its fourth Big Five matchup of the early season, as the Wildcats play host to Temple on Tuesday.