Tough to say if Eagles drafted for talent or need

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Tough to say if Eagles drafted for talent or need

So the Eagles made a move Thursday night that seemed logical and sensible, if you only take into account that they drafted an outside linebacker.

They certainly needed one.

The fact that it wasn’t Anthony Barr or Dee Ford or Kony Ealy or any other pass rusher affixed with the first-round label seems to smack of desperation, a stroll down the draft-for-need lane that bit this franchise in the rear end several times in the past.

Howie Roseman insisted frequently that the Eagles would stick to their best-available-player philosophy, but when you consider the names he and Chip Kelly left on the table before drafting Marcus Smith, a hybrid pass rusher from Louisville who few draft analysts had going in the first round (see story), you have to wonder if they stayed true to their word.

They had Smith rated higher than Marqise Lee, Bradley Roby, Kelvin Benjamin, Louis Nix and Johnny Football?

Maybe they did, but some respectable names in the draft analyst business certainly didn’t.

Only the folks in the war room at One NovaCare Way know how the names stacked up on their board, but Kelly’s well-known preference for measurables -- height, weight, wingspan, etc. -- seemed to trump the big-game experience and performance against elite competition that Roseman often references as criteria for ranking prospects.

The 6-foot-3, 255-pound Smith (see bio) has a 34-inch arm length and is considered an excellent athlete, but 14.5 sacks against UConn, Florida International, Temple, Kentucky and Ohio leveraged against Lee’s shredding of Pac-12 secondaries or Ealy’s 9.5 sacks against SEC powerhouses just doesn’t seem to compute.

Kelly said the Eagles had targeted six other players, but all six were off the board before they were initially slated to pick at 22 and the price to move up wasn’t one they were willing to pay.

In response, they moved down four spots, adding a much-needed third-round pick and enabling the Browns to get Manziel while planning all along on nabbing Smith.

Kelly said he didn’t think Smith would be around Friday when the Eagles pick 54th, especially after the Chiefs took Dee Ford at 23rd, but NFL Network’s Mike Mayock -- who’s perhaps the best at what he does -- had Smith ranked 53rd overall, eight spots behind Ealy and 12 behind Boise State’s Demarcus Lawrence, another outside linebacker.

If Mayock’s right, the Eagles not only didn’t take the best player available but also didn’t even take the best pass rusher left on the board.

“I applaud the pick,” Mayock said, per the Louisville Courier-Journal, “because it attacks an area of need for [Philadelphia].”

Benjamin went two picks later to Carolina, and Roby three picks after that to Denver. But Ealy and Nix are still on the board. As is Lee.

"We've had them all rated for a long time, and our board is our board. ... We've had since last year to stack the board the right way," Kelly said. "If we liked [Lee], that should have been a discussion a while ago. ... That's what you do rationally. You can't let emotion get into it. I think Marqise is a special kid. I tried to recruit him coming out of high school, and he had a tremendous career at USC, but for us, we think Marcus was the right pick."

So which is it: Best player or need?

Time will tell if Kelly and Roseman were smarter than everyone else and uncovered a double-digit sack producer who exceeded others’ expectations, but they insisted that they’d take the prospect who ranked highest on their board, not the one who filled an immediate hole.

At this moment, it’s hard to decipher which one’s which.

Eagles-Steelers predictions by our (cough) experts

Eagles-Steelers predictions by our (cough) experts

This isn't the Browns or the Bears.

This is a legitimate Super Bowl contender with an elite offense and a defense that will test Carson Wentz.

So how will the Eagles fare against the Pittsburgh Steelers at Lincoln Financial Field on Sunday afternoon? Our (cough) expert predictions on the Birds' Week 3 matchup.

Reuben Frank (2-0)
I think the Eagles will acquit themselves well. I think they’ll play a solid, competitive game against one of the NFL’s elite teams, and when the fourth quarter rolls around, they’ll be right there. I also think they’ll lose, but you didn’t think they were going 16-0, did you?

This is an intriguing test for the Eagles, who are sky high after wins over the Browns and Bears. But the Steelers have too much firepower for the Eagles to handle. And it’s not just Ben Roethlisberger and Antonio Brown, a Hall of Fame quarterback and all-pro receiver. Sammie Coates has only four catches but 153 yards. DeAngelo Williams leads the NFL in rushing. Five Steelers have at least one catch of 20 yards (the Eagles only have two guys with a 20-yard catch). And despite allowing almost 400 yards per game, the Steelers have given up just two touchdowns in wins over the Redskins and Bengals.

If the Eagles lose this one, they’re still a surprising 2-1 going into the bye with winnable games looming against the Lions and Redskins. If they win? They’re going to the freaking Super Bowl. But I just think they’re not quite ready for this challenge.

Steelers 24, Eagles 20

Dave Zangaro (2-0)
The Eagles are off to a great start, but I just don't see them pulling this one out.

Pittsburgh isn't just tougher than Cleveland and Chicago. The Steelers might be the best team in the NFL. They're dynamic on offense, even without Le'Veon Bell, and their defense should be something unlike Carson Wentz has seen in his first two games. 

I don't think it will be an absolute blowout and this is certainly a more intriguing game than it was a few weeks ago. But I just can't pick the Eagles in this one. 

Steelers 31, Eagles 24

Derrick Gunn (2-0)
Playing the Browns and Bears were the perfect warmups for the Eagles. Now, they'll face who many experts are picking to represent the AFC in this year's Super Bowl, the Steelers.

This is a team that is loaded on offense with future Hall of Fame quarterback Ben Roethlisberger running the show. Antonio Brown is one of the most dangerous receivers in the game. Wide receiver Sammie Coates is averaging 38.3 yards per catch, and wideout Markus Wheaton, who missed the first two games with a shoulder injury, is expected to be available for this one. And they have 6-foot-7 tight end Jesse James.

DeAngelo Williams leads the league in rushing. The Steelers' defense is allowing 16 points per game, and will come after a young Carson Wentz, who's been brilliant in his first two outings.

Because the Steelers' D is giving up just 50.5 yards per game rushing, the Birds' offense may have to pass more than they want to. This is a tough matchup any way you look at it for the Eagles, especially with tight end Zach Ertz sitting this one out.

On any given Sunday anything can happen, but not this week.

Steelers 27, Eagles 17

Ray Didinger (2-0)
The Eagles have enjoyed success against the Steelers over the years, especially in Philadelphia. The last time the Steelers visited the Linc for a regular season game, the Eagles won a tough defensive battle, 14-6, with Brian Dawkins sealing the victory with a strip sack in the final minutes. In 1979, the Steelers were defending Super Bowl champs, but the Eagles upset them at the Vet, 17-14, when Franco Harris lost a fumble at the 1-yard line.
 
The Steelers haven't won a regular season game here since 1965. It is a good stat, but I'm not sure it has much relevance in this week's matchup. The Steelers are a legitimate Super Bowl contender. Ben Roethlisberger leads the NFL with six touchdown passes and running back DeAngelo Williams leads the league in rushing. Give the Eagles credit for winning their first two games and Carson Wentz is justly the talk of the league, but the Steelers are a huge step up in class from the Browns and Bears.
 
Steelers 24, Eagles 17

Andrew Kulp (2-0)
I can envision a way where this is a close game and the Eagles even win. It's not that far-fetched to think will continue to have success this week because Ben Roethlisberger is a different quarterback on the road, tossing five touchdowns to nine interceptions in six games last season. If they limit the Steelers' offense, Carson Wentz might be able to hit just enough big plays against the 31st-ranked secondary to pull off the upset.

As much as I believe that scenario is possible, it's difficult to pick a rookie quarterback over a Super Bowl contender. The Eagles will limit the Steelers' offense, but Wentz is going to see more complicated looks from the defense and maybe make some real mistakes for the first time. If I'm wrong, and Wentz performs the way he has the previous two weeks, there's a chance the end result is a victory — that's just awfully hard to predict.

Steelers 17, Eagles 16

Corey Seidman (2-0)
I foresee the Eagles have trouble covering Antonio Brown, who scores an early TD, before selling out against him and opening up running lanes for DeAngelo Williams.

Even if Carson Wentz leads the Eagles to points on their opening drive for a third straight game, I expect him to struggle unless the offensive line plays lights out (looking at you, Jason Kelce). 

Predicting Wentz throws his first interception and the Eagles lose to a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

Steelers 27, Eagles 17

Andy Schwartz (1-1)
Well, guess I overestimated the Bears. 

But be thankful I did, because you know what happens when all of us pick the Eagles. 

They lose. 

Granted, we all picked the Eagles to beat Cleveland, but the Browns are so bad the rule doesn’t apply to them.

And the Bears don’t seem much better.

Not to take anything away from the Eagles’ victory. They won handily on the road on Monday Night Football and did so with a rookie quarterback making just his second career start. 

But still. The Bears were no benchmark for the Birds.

The Steelers, as Doug Pederson said, are.

And as much attention as we want to place on Carson Wentz, this game very well could come down to the Eagles’ defense, which as much as Wentz is responsible for their 2-0 record.

Ben Roethlisberger > Jay Cutler. Antonio Brown > Alshon Jeffery. D’Angelo Williams > Jeremy Langford. 

The Steelers are a Super Bowl contender. Right now they have the second-best odds in the league, behind the Patriots, who just trashed the Texans.

I’m on the Wentz Wagon. I like the Birds’ D. I’m just not ready to predict a W over the Steelers.

Steelers 30, Eagles 23

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Stephen Tulloch's snaps can give Jordan Hicks a breather

Stephen Tulloch's snaps can give Jordan Hicks a breather

On Monday night, when the Chicago Bears’ offense got onto the field late in the third quarter at their 24-yard line, down 22-7, Jordan Hicks was a spectator. 

The Eagles’ starting middle linebacker stood on the sideline with his helmet propped up on his head as veteran 31-year-old Stephen Tulloch came out in his place. 

When asked why, defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz was coy. 

“It was a coaching decision,” Schwartz said Thursday. “He made a big hit on that play. Just leave it at that.” 

When pressed about Tulloch’s role going forward, Schwartz said he didn’t know and then that he isn’t big on talking about who is going to play in which package or how much. 

“I'm sorry, it's not that I'm trying to keep stuff from you,” Schwartz said. “I just feel like that's stuff that's best for the opponent to figure out on Sunday.”

Tulloch played well on that series late in the third quarter and early in the fourth, where he picked up a few of his 12 defensive snaps. He had a big hit on Alshon Jeffery after a first down and would have probably scooped up a fumble if cornerback Ron Brooks didn’t beat him to it first. 

He played well, but it was still a curious decision. Hicks isn’t just the Eagles’ starting MIKE linebacker, he’s one of the biggest defensive playmakers the team has. 

“That’s the rotation that they’ve put in place,” Hicks said. “Tully’s a great player. They like that rotation, they like putting him in, letting him get a feel for the game as well. For me, no, I mean, when I’m getting in a groove, going out a series doesn’t necessarily hurt me at all. Once I get into it, I’m locked in.”

Could the breaks actually help him?  

“Absolutely,” he said. “Especially if I’m rotating in on special teams here or there. No question.”

Tulloch was signed shortly before the season began after seventh-round pick Joe Walker suffered a torn ACL. The veteran already knew Schwartz’s defense inside and out upon his arrival, after playing under Schwartz in Tennessee and Detroit.  

Tulloch wouldn’t say if he expects his role to increase, decrease or stay the same. But he did say he enjoyed playing his first defensive snaps as an Eagle on Monday. And he understands the value he can have as a backup player who gives the starter a chance to rest. 

“I think that’s just the way the game is now,” Tulloch said. “A lot of guys play special teams and on defense as well. Whenever you can give a guy a blow to keep him fresh. It’s a long season, as you know, playing week in and week out. It’s a lot of wear and tear on the body, so whenever you give guys a breather, especially guys that understand the defense and there’s no let-off. Try to get them a little breather and get them back out there.” 

Starting WILL linebacker Mychal Kendricks, who has been the odd man out in the team’s nickel package, is questionable heading into Sunday’s game against the Steelers with a broken nose and quad contusion. 

There’s also been some outside thought the team could, at times, put Tulloch in the game at MIKE and slide Hicks to WILL if Kendricks begins to struggle. Hicks said he’s worked at the WILL, as well as the SAM, for depth purposes and could play there if need be. 

For now, though, Hicks is the starter and Tulloch is a capable backup off the bench, who looked pretty good in limited action against the Bears. 

“He looked like an 11-year vet,” Hicks said. “He’s played a lot of football. I’m sure when you get to that point, it doesn’t take much to just fall back on who you are and who you’ve always been and all those games you’ve played before.”

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