Flyers Notes: Are second-year players hurting team?

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Flyers Notes: Are second-year players hurting team?

For much of last year, the Flyers’ rookies were a big part of the team’s success.

This year, though, those very same players might be more of a liability. And there's a few reasons for that, according to Kimmo Timonen.

“I’ll tell you this,” Timonen said. “The second year was the toughest year of my NHL life. And we have a lot of second-year players. You’ve got to work even harder to get to the point where you were in your first year.”

In Thursday’s 4-3 shootout loss to the New York Islanders (see story), the Flyers dressed five second-year players: forwards Brayden Schenn, Sean Couturier, Matt Read and Zac Rinaldo, and defenseman Erik Gustafsson.

Certainly, those players weren’t the reason the Flyers lost the game, even after leading 2-0 in the first period. But, Timonen said, experienced teams are usually the type that are able to play complete games. Not the type to put in one good period, or a fraction of a good period, and sit back on their heels.

That’s something the Flyers have failed at consistently this year.

"I’ve been on a lot of teams," Timonen said. "And an experienced team plays the same way pretty much the whole 60 minutes. And sometimes I feel like I said earlier a couple weeks ago: We play 30 minutes good and 30 minutes bad, and we lose the game because of that. We’ve got to find a way to play 60 minutes. The teams that are playing 60 minutes usually win the game."

Timonen called it an issue of mental toughness, something that, once again, younger players often struggle with.

“We can’t put the blame on the kids,” Timonen said. “Young guys, they have to learn. Maybe this is the learning period. It’s a tough learning period, but we have to take it. There’s us older guys, we’ve got to be better, we’ve got to be the leaders out there and show these young guys how to play the game. It’s too much to put these young guys on the spot and say they’re the reason we are where we are. That’s not the case.”

As for that proverbial sophomore slump?

“Expectations are higher,” Timonen said. “Obviously, first year, you come in the league and you play well and there’s no pressure. But second year, there’s pressure. That’s something you have to learn to play with. That’s how I felt when I was second year in the league.”

Call me, maybe not
Scott Hartnell fought Islanders winger Colin McDonald in the first period because, in his opinion, McDonald threw an ugly hit on Timonen -- and no call was made by the officials.

Later, in the third period, Claude Giroux appeared to have been boarded violently behind the Islanders’ net. Again, no call.

Hartnell wasn’t happy.

“It’s just weird we never get a call these days,” Hartnell said. “A high hit on an all-star, one of the best defensemen in the league, no call. Giroux, at the end, there’s no more boarding penalty than that I don’t think, and no call as well. Linesman had to make the call on the faceoff there to get the six-on-four attack there at the end. It’s frustrating that we’re not getting any breaks that way, but they’re not going to hand games to us, that’s for sure.”

McGinn scratched, Knuble plays
In an unexpected move, the Flyers elected to scratch Tye McGinn from Thursday's game.

McGinn had been recalled from the Phantoms, played a little more than 20 minutes against the Rangers on the Flyers’ top line, then dropped down to a lesser unit, then was scratched against the Islanders. An odd series of events.
 
He sat healthy in the press box. That allowed Mike Knuble to finally dress for a game.
 
Knuble spent eight straight games as a healthy scratch before scoring his third goal of the season late in the opening period against the Islanders.
 
“I think you want to come in and want to play a good game,” Knuble said. “That's your main priority. You want to play strong defensively and try to string some strong offensive shifts together.
 
“Obviously, scoring a goal tonight is a bonus. It is good to get back out there. We are all competitive as players. You want to be out there every night and when you're not playing it hurts.”
 
Loose pucks
Giroux had two assists in the first period. … Danny Briere, who is out indefinitely with a concussion, attended the first two periods only in the press box before leaving. …  The Islanders had a goal waved off at the end of the first period because it was scored after the buzzer. … Hartnell had his first two-goal game of the season. … The Flyers blocked 26 shots, their second-highest shot-blocking total of the season.

Flyers returning from World Cup enjoyed playoff-like atmosphere

Flyers returning from World Cup enjoyed playoff-like atmosphere

VOORHEES, N.J. – It’s as if the season began right where it left off for the handful of Flyers players that participated in the World Cup of Hockey. 

Five months removed from their first round series with Washington, the group that played in the international tournament says it was nearly identical to the tempo they saw in the NHL playoffs.

“Our division was really tight so right from the get-go you couldn’t afford to lose a game,” said Sean Couturier, who suited up for North America. “It definitely felt like playoffs, and it definitely didn’t feel like September.”

Couturier was joined by his World Cup teammate Shayne Gostisbehere, along with Team Czech Republic’s Jake Voracek and Michael Neuvirth, in their return to Voorhees for their first practice with the Flyers on Monday. Team Canada’s Claude Giroux and the Team Europe duo of Mark Streit and Pierre-Edouard Bellemare will be competing in the finals this week.

While it may have been an early exit for the first wave of Flyers who reported back, the experience of playing in a tournament with that high of intensity has left them more confident than they’ve ever felt at this time of the year, particularly for Gostisbehere. 

The Calder Trophy runner-up underwent offseason hip surgery following his 46-point season. Having missed a season two years ago because of a torn ACL, Gostisbehere is thankful for how much the World Cup prepared him for his second year. He says he feels better now than he ever has in his career after picking up four assists in the tournament.

“You don’t play in those games in September normally so it was pretty cool to do,” Gostisbehere said. “I think the tournament was a good stepping stone for me and to branch off my injury and give yourself the confidence that you’re feeling good for the year.”

Like Couturier and Gostisbehere, Voracek said the World Cup gameplay mirrored that of the NHL postseason. 

“When I look at the season for the Flyers, it was the best thing that could have happened for me,” Voracek said. “The World Cup was high level… I’m six games in before training camp even starts.”

After what he calls a “good offseason” of training, Voracek saw this opportunity as almost a saving grace – a chance to regain form before embarking on his sixth season in Philadelphia. The winger had one goal and one assist in three games that “felt like I was playing in the playoffs.”

Had this tournament occurred in 2015, the mindset coming back may have been different. Dave Hakstol was coaching his first professional season and as evidenced by their record to start the year and the comments made throughout, things took a little longer than expected when it came to picking up the new coach’s system.

That process is behind the Flyers, and it makes missing the first weekend of camp and possibly the first week of preseason games an easier obstacle to overcome.

“It’s always better when you know the system and what Hak wants in you,” Voracek said. “It’s obviously going to get better and better.”

The best-of-three World Cup finals will begin on Tuesday with the third game (if needed) commencing on Saturday. If the teams go the full distance, the remaining three Flyers involved would likely not play their first preseason game until Oct. 6 if not Oct. 8, the final exhibition game. 

Pressure is on Flyers' fourth-liner Chris VandeVelde to fend off competition

Pressure is on Flyers' fourth-liner Chris VandeVelde to fend off competition

VOORHEES, N.J. — Even before Flyers training camp opened, Ron Hextall talked about a plenitude of internal competition for jobs.
 
It’s all over the ice, too.

Who starts in goal: Steve Mason or Michal Neuvirth, who came on strong at the end of last season? 
 
Does Ivan Provorov win a spot on the roster? And if he does, who gets sent packing?
 
Between Scott Laughton and Nick Cousins, who gets the lion's share of ice time? 
 
Can Travis Konecny or Roman Lyubimov force a veteran forward off the team?
 
Then there’s free-agent signee Boyd Gordon, a PK specialist who was second only to Claude Giroux in the league last season on winning defensive zone draws. More competition.
 
Well, one of the key battles in training camp for both roster space and minutes concerns how veteran fourth-liner Chris VandeVelde handles the competition from Lyubimov — the 24-year-old Russian who plays a heavy game and can handle special teams — and others.
 
VandeVelde saw a bit of an offensive drop-off last season with 14 points. Though just a point fewer than the year before, the bigger dip was going from nine goals to two.
 
With no real goal-scoring additions in the offseason, Hextall is expecting bigger outputs from returning players.
 
In VandeVelde’s case, two goals is something Lyubimov could easily match or exceed.
 
“You have to go out there and give it your all,” VandeVelde said. “Hopefully, work hard and kind of make an impression. There’s a lot of guys fighting for a fair amount of spots. It’s going to be interesting.
 
“I think I’ve felt pressure every year. Obviously, you want to make an impression and get noticed out there. Reassure [them] I can still do the job and add a few things to my offensive game.”
 
And his self-evaluation?
 
“I think I was solid,” he replied. “As a fourth line, we were very good at times. Individually, I can add a little more and chip in a little more.”
 
VandeVelde is not scheduled to play in either of Monday’s split-squad games in New Jersey or Brooklyn.
 
At stake here isn’t just his job on the fourth line but the penalty kill, as well. VandeVelde’s 2:17 shorthanded ice time per game was second only to linemate Pierre-Edouard Bellemare (2:35) among the forwards.
 
The 6-foot-2, 207-pound Lyubimov has played on the penalty kill in the KHL, and Gordon is a PK specialist. What was VandeVelde’s edge is now something up for grabs, especially given both Hextall and coach Dave Hakstol have vowed there will be improvement on the PK, which ranked 20th last season after being among the bottom 10 much of the year.
 
Hakstol has said he intends to tweak the PK with some structural changes. That sounds like personnel changes and Gordon could be a guy on the fourth unit and will certainly be in the mix on the penalty kill.
 
How to make the kill better remains at large.
 
“We have to start a little more aggressively,” VandeVelde said. “Kind of like we finished the last couple games there against Washington [in the playoffs]. We kind of got burnt there, 6-1 [in Game 3]. We switched styles a little too late.”
 
The Flyers gave up five power-play goals in Game 3 to the Caps.
 
VandeVelde admits his penalty kill experience gives him a bit of an edge going into camp.
 
“If I can bring that extra edge and solidify a role, that is huge,” he said.
 
VandeVelde returned to his home in Moorhead, Minnesota, over the summer to focus on his skating, hoping to get a more explosive start on the ice that he could utilize better during the penalty kill.
 
One thing seems certain: VandeVelde says there’s a greater comfort level for returning players as to what to expect from Hakstol. Also, whereas last year’s camp was one of implementing systems, this year’s camp is one of expanding on them.
 
“Everyone knows what to expect,” VandeVelde said. “So do all three coaches. They are going to tweak some things, whether it's penalty kill or power play or other systems. We’ll learn that. That is what preseason is for. All the players know what to expect and are ready to go.”
 
VandeVelde said he’s already been informed what the team expects from him this season. The competition could push him in that direction.
 
“I know what they want,” he said. “Obviously, I can do more offensively and want to chip in a little more as a fourth line and as an individual. Maybe just work on that.”