Phillies College Night Gets Wild

Phillies College Night Gets Wild

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Things got out of hand on Wednesday night at the Phillies game and we're not just talking about Tom Gordon and Ryan Madson.  From the Inquirer.

The Phillies said yesterday they would look at ways to improve college
nights at Citizens Bank Park after Wednesday's first college night got
out of hand
.

Rowdy fans threw objects from the upper deck onto the field and fans
below. There were 31 ejections Wednesday, which is higher than normal.
There also were reports of fights.

"We're very pleased about the increased attendance and interest by the college fans," said Mike Stiles,
senior vice president for administration and operations. "But we have
to curtail college fans or anybody else who engages in misbehavior that
takes away from the rest of our fans' enjoyment of the game. And so
we're going to explore ways to do that, and we have to find the right
balance."

And an email from The 700 Level reader Andrew:

So I had the pleasure of going down to the
Phillies night home opener last evening. Yes it was a cold evening but
I wore a double layer of thermal underwear so I was warm.(too much
info) I took the subway and was shocked at the standing room crowd on
the train. McFadden's was packed with drunk shot guzzling college kids.
I saw floody, spoke with him and he told me they had a pre sale of
35,000. When we got to our great seats 8 rows behind the plate my eyes
could not stop checking out the right field upper deck or the left and
center field outfield seats. Fights galore, food fights, beer bottle
throwing fights, fist fights among rival colleges, kids puking in the
bathrooms and hallways.
In a word it was great theatre. When McCann
tied up the game Victorino was showered with beer bottles, hot dogs
tennis and golf balls, they had to stop and pick the debris up and make
an announcement not to throw stuff onto the field. Oh by the way our
bullpen stinks.

It's always sunny in Philadelphia.  Now what kind of reject brings tennis and golf balls to a Phillies game?  Did anyone else witness this?

And the Ladies take on the evening.

UPDATE: When a reader sends me an email this long, I have to pass it along.

I was in the right field upper deck for the opening night game and
dollar dog night.  There was a lot of "asshole" and "you suck" chants
to people wearing everything from braves jerseys, hot dog costumes,
and even a batman costume.  The person who got it worst was some guy
wearing a Giants jersey who was purposely drawing attention to that
fact: he was treated to the asshole chant, then some shoving, and it
got so bad he had to leave.  Unfortunately for him, as he was headed
for the steps he got beers poured on him by what seemed like that
entire section, along with some bottles and hot dogs.  It was like the
beginning of the Pistons-Pacers fight.  Despite the fact that he was
wearing a Giants jersey and acting like an idiot, it got out of hand.
Other than that, there were a few minor skirmishes but no punches
thrown that I saw.

I have to say security did a terrible job.  The hot dog throwing and
debris started from a few drunk kids early on, maybe even the fourth
inning, and security didn't do anything.  Once, security saw the
person who actually threw the hotdog, so one security guard who looked
like Tony Dungee went over to the person and said something to him,
but didn't kick him out.  Once everyone saw that security wasn't going
to take any action, things got progressively worse from there.  Thank
god ballparks use plastic bottles these days.  Security shouldn't be
lenient; if someone is going to throw something, they should not get a
warning.  In fact, the same guy who got the warning earlier was one of
the people that threw a bottle onto the field from the upper deck.

There was definitely a tennis ball thrown onto the field behind 1st
base.  Howard was nice enough to toss it underhand into the crowd.  I
didn't see any golf balls - I think people mistook the balled up tin
foil of the dollar dogs for golf balls.  That doesn't make it any
better unfortunately.  I felt bad for the ball girls who had to pick
up those de-bunned hot dogs.  Even worse, quality, or at least cheap,
hot dogs went to waste.

Obviously the ugliest part was when McCann hit the game tying homerun.
Evertyhing was thrown, even a few hats.  It was a discgrace. Security
can't allow them to conduct themselves like that.  I've noticed this
throwing bottles phenomenon at college basketball games in the past
few years too. I am proud to be a fan, but I am ashamed of a lot of
these college fans recently.

-Dan

P.S. When the game went to extra innings, I heard the first
E-A-G-L-E-S chant of the year.  That didn't take long.

Give and Go: No. 3 pick or an impact free agent more important for Sixers?

Give and Go: No. 3 pick or an impact free agent more important for Sixers?

Before the offseason craziness starts, our resident basketball analysts will discuss some of the hottest topics involving the Sixers.

Running the Give and Go are CSNPhilly.com Sixers Insider Jessica Camerato and producer/reporters Matt Haughton and Paul Hudrick.

In this edition, we analyze whether the No. 3 pick or adding an impact free agent is more important for the Sixers.

Camerato
The Sixers have the third pick in the 2017 draft. 
 
They also had the same pick in 2014. 
 
And 2015. 
 
And the number one pick in 2016.
 
The No. 3 is a nice addition of potential young talent, but how much further does *another* high lottery pick progress the Sixers?
 
The team is at a point where they need more experienced players to boost the development of Joel Embiid, Ben Simmons, Dario Saric … and basically everyone on the roster except Jerryd Bayless, who is the only player under contract for next season with more than four years of NBA experience.
 
Veterans make younger players around them better. This isn’t only being a voice in the locker room either. This season the Sixers could greatly benefit from a vet who is in game with them, not just on the bench. Look at what 35-year-old Joe Johnson did for the Jazz this season. 
 
Do the Sixers need to go out and sign a big name free agent to a max contract? No. They have the money to spend but also a lot of questions to answer about Simmons’ role and Embiid’s health before locking in someone long-term. 
 
Can adding experience develop them further than potential would at this point? Yes.

Haughton
There's always a delicate balance between blending homegrown talent and free agents. With this Sixers team, I think adding another young piece to the core with the No. 3 pick is far more important than luring someone on the free-agent market.

If we're being honest about the team's roster, there are only two real difference makers in Embiid and, in all likelihood, Simmons. In that third draft slot, the Sixers have an opportunity to select yet another top-tier talent and address an area of need (guard or wing) without spending a boatload of cash.

The Sixers' youthful makeup resembles a college team and makes it easier for rookies to mix into the group. That also means the draft pick has a chance to grow on the same track as his teammates and build for the long-term betterment of "The Process" instead of a free agent that is likely trying to speed things up to win now.

Speaking of FAs, there will be a nice pool of guys available for the Sixers. However, it's not like any of them are going to put the team over the top and in the conversation for any postseason hardware.

Stick to the script and focus on the draft. Whichever player hears his name called at No. 3 will have a far bigger fingerprint on where this franchise goes next than anyone acquired via free agency.

Hudrick
The Sixers have identified Embiid and Simmons as their franchise players. Embiid is 23 and Simmons will turn 21 in July. Embiid has played in 31 games and Simmons has yet to take the floor.

I mention this because this Sixers team is still very much building. They're nowhere near a finished product. The veteran additions of Gerald Henderson and Bayless (who was limited to mostly a mentoring role last season) no doubt helped the team last season. But what does signing a marquee free agent do? 

Looking at the market, the two most obvious choices are point guard Kyle Lowry (31) and two guard J.J. Redick (32). Lowry and Redick both fills needs and will make the Sixers better immediately. 

But this team won 28 games last year while only having Embiid for 31 games and not having Simmons at all. Add the No. 3 overall pick to that equation -- whether it's Josh Jackson, Malik Monk, Jayson Tatum or De'Aaron Fox -- and the Sixers should improve on that mark.

There will be a time to sign a big-name free agent. I'm just not sure this is the offseason to do it. They need to get their first-round pick in here and see how that player gels with the team's core. After you see how the team starts to take shape, that's when you need to add a free agent to put you over the top.

Tonight's lineup: Howie Kendrick returns, Odubel Herrera rides the pine

Tonight's lineup: Howie Kendrick returns, Odubel Herrera rides the pine

Updated: 4:33 p.m.

Howie Kendrick is back after a month and a half on the disabled list while Odubel Herrera is heading to the bench for a few days.

The Phillies reinstated Kendrick from the DL and he's in the lineup, batting second and playing left field vs. the Marlins (7:10/CSN and CSNPhilly.com). Meanwhile, manager Pete Mackanin said pregame slumping center fielder Odubel Herrera will be on the bench both today and tomorrow. Maikel Franco was moved down further in the lineup.

Kendrick batted a sterling .333 in his 39 at-bats in April, looking the part of a top-of-the-order hitter. The former infielder played only left field during his 10 games before going down with an oblique injury (see game notes). He gives the Phillies a chance to rest their outfielders or allow them a new look in the corner infield. 

Herrera is in the midst of a 1-for-22 slide that has brought his batting average down to .217. Mackanin said postgame on Sunday that he would move Herrera down in the lineup and would give him a few days off at some point with Kendrick back as an extra outfielder. Mackanin hoped time off would help lessen the pressure on the scuffling Herrera.

Mackanin also mentioned the inconsistent at-bats of Franco, who is down to seventh in the lineup. Catcher Cameron Rupp was moved ahead of him to sixth in the order with Franco batting .213 and going 2 for 18 since his eight-game hitting streak ended on Monday.

Jeremy Hellickson makes his first start since allowing a seven-run third inning to the Rockies on Wednesday. The good news for the righty is that he dominated the Marlins last season and was similiarly strong in a victory vs. the Fish in April.

Here's the full lineup that will oppose Edinson Volquez:

1. Cesar Hernandez, 2B
2. Howie Kendrick, LF
3. Aaron Altherr, CF
4. Tommy Joseph, 1B
5. Michael Saunders, RF
6. Cameron Rupp, C
7. Maikel Franco, 3B
8. Freddy Galvis, SS
9. Jeremy Hellickson, P