Made that decision was not terribly. Well received in some circles. But how much did it affect Andy Reid's career and head coaching tenure here. So -- table for everything I mean that was the foundation. That was his first pick. That was his first big decision. And it was a lot of guts because it was not a popular decision in the city certainly wasn't listening to the fans the fans. Most of them one -- Ricky Williams. There are a lot of people around a lot of questions about whether Donovan McNabb was going to be good NFL quarterback he came up a whole different kind of offense Syracuse. I remember that was a draft class and had a lot of quarterbacks and Tim Couch Achilles Smith gave me now. Daunte Culpepper. There were a lot of people that said necessarily Donovan McNabb was a sure shot guy but Andy Reid believed in them. He picked him over public objection and believe that he was gonna be the cornerstone of this franchise because injury to quarterback coach ultimately and he had a victory quarterback. And as it turned out he did pick the right one but how about this Cutler how much did Andy -- have to do with Donovan McNabb its success. I think everything I mean you're you're looking here a phenomenal talent coming out of college. Who who still raw. Made a lot of plays and left lettuce is when Andy Reid got here. He he he policy the rough edges he taught him how to utilize his body behind his throws to increase velocity on the throws. Com how to read defense is taught them how to put touches certain touches on passes. Depending on the situation. I Andy Reid and everything and he has done over the tapes and everything and anything to do we've -- -- the success and growth. As a professional quarterback in the NFL if they had taken Achilles Smith or Donovan had gone to Cleveland. What what would we be talking about now I think we would have been talking about Achilles Smith being a bust here because a lot of people. Although he was drafted Andy Reid was not a -- him in terms when he sent down and talk to him and answers he got back from Achilles Smith. And I think Donovan going to -- going to Cleveland. I think it Donovan would have had an average career. And possibly would never gotten to an FC championship game or Super Bowl for that matter he just happy to be the right pick at the right time for the right organization. In the right coach who knew how to quick buck -- quarterbacks. That made it all happen for them. Quickly -- same same question to you what would have had -- -- otherwise or had they -- Ricky Williams as everyone pounded the drums for -- -- -- I would that Donovan McNabb received. If Ricky Williams had come here. How much different is Andy Reid's tenure is Woody still in the coach for fourteen seasons. I don't know I -- I mean Donovan McNabb was really ever any built everything around quarterback and he picked the right quarterback and he coached him beautifully I -- -- was a guy that even throughout his career was never. A textbook perfect mechanical quarterback he had to be managed to certain way -- plays had to be called a certain way the offense had to be structured certain way. And Andy handled that masterfully but Donovan McNabb mean he. You know he made Donovan one of the elite players in the league and Donovan. Help they can be one of the elite coaches it was a perfect marriage and we were lucky to see it happen here in Philadelphia -- sure.