But the Phillies -- guys some depth in the bullpen this week and signing Chad -- a guy who was on the World Series team in 2008. The word is depth that Ruben Amaro junior has used to describe deciding. Good moving your mind Jim and then why did -- make a move like that I think it's a pretty. Good move I like it if you look at last year the bullpen other than Jonathan Papelbon. Was a big weakness. It's always very valuable to have experienced guys in no other way around back in that bullpen. And Chad Durbin Durbin certainly has it I think he can be good mentor to some of these young guys that they have. He can he can help with -- one batter against a right hander he can also give you multi innings if you need him so for a million bucks I think it's a solid signing. Are right so you've mentioned the young guys and you know we -- a lot of them last year Ricky and expect to see some of them this year. Is deciding like Chad Durbin is a blocking some of these young guys from getting a chance and it has been with. I think it will a little bit but you know you got to that several current team you are in the first place. Are we trying to move on I would but are we try to make our bullpen better because I think Durbin does that. Think he makes your bullpen better do you really know you have these young guys that are coming up the freight is we saw last year -- then we saw last year and even -- -- These are guys that still need to prove themselves up here in the big leagues. So I think the Phillies are -- again using certain guys as insurance points I think Chad Durbin is a great piece of insurance for that. Is a guy that double take the ball he's durable. He he enjoys going out on the mound you know. He can't teach the other guys he can't teach these young guys it's just going to be one at a time now it's not gonna be for young guys -- -- row. Which is probably a good thing -- so assuming that the bills keep. Seven guys in the bullpen we know four of them probably -- Papelbon gender its gonna make this team that starter will most likely end Mike Adams obviously will be there as well. At least three spots -- -- you get bracket first fill those three spots with the remaining young arms that you have on the state students Almonte. And I'll go with. Do we put horse than them now. -- reports reports that there you pitched very well for this team last year but I you are you need a second left hander Greg so I think Jeremy horses. Certainly opens in my life she'd be that second left hander I think fully Beaumont I think you got to take a look at his time has come big powerful right hander. I'd like to see him in the bullpen an instance or the freighters. Kind of a toss up there so that. That's the last spot those two guys you both seemed longer distances healthy I think he's got the inside inside track with Charlie and handle that's that's my guess another network that we got them aren't haven't thrown a pitch yet spring training. We -- to -- the bullpen figured out myself and try.