Temple-La Salle Afternoon After Notes: Rollouts, Chants and Dunphy on Legalizing 'the Carry'

Temple-La Salle Afternoon After Notes: Rollouts, Chants and Dunphy on Legalizing 'the Carry'

In front of the most profane college crowd I've seen in the last five years, the Temple Owls and La Salle Explorers played a game simultaneously representative of Big 5 basketball and 17th century British philosophy -- one that was nasty, brutish and (not short, but) long.

Despite a career-high 33 points from senior Explorer Earl Pettis -- who pushed the game to overtime thanks to his own 11-1 run over the Owls in the final three minutes of regulation -- the Explorers would miss two three-point attempts in the last six seconds to lose 80-79.

Temple escaped the Gola with its 22nd win of the season to improve to 11-2 in the A-10. La Salle, meanwhile, falls to 18-10 and 7-6. They've lost four of their last five.

See here for the full recap. For Fran Dunphy's postgame tribute to the late Alonzo Lewis, click here.

Assorted notes, rollout recaps, and Dunphy on why college refs should stop calling the carry after the jump...

Temple Rollouts

1. "Boyz II Men topped the charts the last timeyou made the tourney."
2. "Hey, wait, are we on Cheltenham Ave.?" (followed by a chant of "High-School-Gym")
3. "Your time on the expressway > Your time at Boardwalk Hall"
4. "Lent go of your tournament hopes."
5. "Chanting Taco Bell at Juan won't get you a job there."
6. "This is our ciTy."

La Salle Signs/Chants/Stuff Thrown (allegedly)

Signs:
1. "Only an Explorer can lead the Owls."
2. "Where's your video boards?"

Chants (other than those typically positive variety):
1. F***-You-Tem-Ple (at least five times)
2. U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A (at Temple's Argentine senior guard Juan Fernandez)

Stuff thrown (allegedly):
1. Cups
2. Water bottles

Highs and Lows
-- La Salle's Earl Pettis finished with a game-, season- and career-high 33 points. He went on an 11-1 run by himself in the final 2:47 of regulation. He scored 18 of La Salle's final 20 points.

-- Temple's Michael Eric tied his career-high of 18 points, but went the final 19:44 without a single point. He added 12 rebounds for his fourth double-double of the year and a new career-high six blocks.

-- Temple's Ramone Moore also had 18 points and set a season-high in rebounds with 9.

-- Temple shot 72 percent in the second half, but La Salle coach John Giannini refused to place blame on his defense. "I, like any coach, don't really have a problem with honest criticism," he said. "I've been in here and talked about games where we played good defense and games where we played bad defense. I'm sitting here, and looking at them shooting 72 percent in the second half, and I'm telling you, we were playing good defense. We were playing hard. They (Temple) are amazing."

-- Both teams had exactly even assist-to-turnover ratios. Temple was at 9-9 and La Salle 6-6 after the first half. They finished 19-19 and 13-13, respectively.

-- Two technical fouls were issued in Wednesday night's game. La Salle's Devon White was T'd in the first half for what appeared to be hanging on the rim, though, in his defense, he may have been doing so in an attempt not to come crashing down on another player. Later, with just 1:33 remaining in regulation, Ramone Moore was  whistled for an offensive foul on a push off. The typically reserved Moore then said something for which one of the referees didn't care. Pettis hit two free throws and a three-pointer immediately after to tie the game at 71.

-- Speaking of the officials, there were at least four conferences in the first half to correct blatantly incorrect calls. One official was accused of allowing Temple's Juan Fernandez and Khalif Wyatt to call the game. He raised his eyebrows, cocked his head to the side and smirked. It was...interesting.

Should We Stop Calling the Carry?
After the game, Fran Dunphy detailed for the second time this season his belief that "the carry" should no longer be called in college basketball.

For reference, palming goes largely uncalled in the NBA, except for the very rare occasion and those two months the league tried to enforce a crackdown in 2010. In fact, Allen Iverson's trademark crossover was nearly always a violation, as were his stutter moves before changing gears to blow past defenders on dribble-drives. Then again, that isn't basketball -- it's the NBA.

Anyway, Fran Dunphy on the carry:

"I probably shouldn't say this, but I will. I think the carry is -- it's a bad call. It has no point in the game. It's how kids play the game today. You don't need to call it, because my carry is not your carry is not your carry. So, just leave it alone. That's how the game has evolved.

"When I was a kid playing the game, I wasn't good enough to do that. And, so, you know, learn how the game is played and kind of stay away from that. That would be my only complaint. The other (calls) are going to happen, but the carry -- I'd like to get rid of it, if we can."

Thoughts on the enforcement of the carry? Yea? Nay?

New Jersey product Tim Adleman limits Phillies to 1 hit over 8 innings

New Jersey product Tim Adleman limits Phillies to 1 hit over 8 innings

Cincinnati Reds starter Tim Adleman came into Friday night’s start against the Phillies with an ERA above six, having allowed 10 runs in his last 5 2/3 innings. 

So, naturally, he gave up just one hit over eight scoreless innings. 

The 29-year-old righty dominated the Phillies in just his 20th career MLB start en route to his third win this season, pitching easily the best game of his young career in a 5-2 Reds’ win (see game recap).

It was understandably the best that Reds manager Bryan Price had seen from Adleman.
 
"It wasn't just because of the line score," Price said. "It was really command-based. Really good both sides of the plate. Had a nice sinking fastball, could straighten it out when he needed to. A very, very good changeup. I don’t think he even used a breaking ball there until the eighth inning.

"So it was really that good."

At just 100 pitches through eight, naturally the question for Price was whether to allow him the chance at a complete game. However, Price needed to get reliever Asher Wojciechowski work to get him ready for a start next week.

"I wanted to stay in there pretty badly, but you understand the move," Adleman said. "Wojo needed to get some work. It had been a while since he threw and it's a game in May. It's not a game that's deeper in the season. … I totally understand."

For his eight innings, Adleman attacked the Phillies' batters early in counts and didn't allow a batter to reach third all night. He retired the leadoff batter in all but one inning and allowed just four batters to reach base.

The Phillies' only threat came in the first inning. An Andres Blanco single was followed by an Aaron Altherr hit by pitch. That brought up Thursday's hero -- Tommy Joseph -- with two men on and just one out. Adleman utilized his changeup on a 1-2 pitch, inducing a weak grounder back the mound for a 1-4-3 double play. 

In three at-bats against Joseph, Adleman recorded three ground ball outs, all on the changeup, which is his primary off-speed offering.

"The scouting report is that he's a really good fastball hitter. Does a lot of damage on fastballs," Adleman said, "So if you can get him in situations where you're confident he's looking for a fastball and then cut a changeup on him, it can be really effective. Obviously, you have to keep it down, but that's the same with all your pitches."

Joseph's at-bats set the trend for the rest of the Phillies' lineup. The Reds’ starter kept the ball down and didn’t allow another baserunner until he walked Blanco to lead off the seventh. Sixteen of his 24 outs came on ground balls and only five pitches were hit past the infield. 

Adleman stated his goal was to use the Phillies’ aggressiveness against them with strikes early in the count and it worked. It was his first time pitching into the eighth inning in his career and he did so with almost exclusively his fastball and changeup.

"I think it had a lot to do with that little pause [in his delivery] and he did a good job changing speeds on us," Joseph said. "He basically did it with two pitches, which says a lot about how hard this game can be. Hats off to him. 

"Next time we'll see if we can't get him back."

In a way, Adleman was getting the Phillies back. He made the third start of his career at Citizens Bank Park last year on May 14. He took the loss against Friday’s starter, Aaron Nola, while allowing three runs in five innings.

Born in Staten Island, Adleman was raised in New Jersey, but grew up a Yankees fan. He hadn't been to CBP until college, where he faced Villanova while playing for Georgetown. 

At 29, he's a little old for a second-year starter because he took a winding road to the major leagues. Drafted by the Orioles in 2010, he was nearly out of baseball by 24. He spent two years in independent leagues before catching on with the Reds and debuting in the show last season.

The journeyman starter had struggled in his last few starts, which helped his ERA balloon to 6.19. However, his Friday night opponent seemed more than happy to take some air out of the balloon. Adleman became the fifth pitcher in the last six days to come into a start against the Phillies with an ERA of 5.00 or above and allow one run or less over at least five innings. 

"It feels good," Adleman said of his night. "Philly's a good young team and Nola is making quite a name for himself. He out-pitched me last year and coming into tonight I knew I had an opportunity to right the ship so to speak."

Pete Mackanin calls team meeting after Phillies hit low point with 21st loss in 26 games

Pete Mackanin calls team meeting after Phillies hit low point with 21st loss in 26 games

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When the opposing pitcher comes in with an ERA that matches the area code for San Diego -- 6.19 -- and holds you scoreless on one single over eight innings, well …

You've reached the low point of your season.

And it's time for a team meeting.

Phillies manager Pete Mackanin called for a little powwow after his club suffered a 5-2 loss to the Cincinnati Reds on Friday night (see Instant Replay). Don't let the final score fool you. It wasn't that close. The loss was the Phillies' 21st in the last 26 games. They were held to three hits for the fourth time in the last six games -- five losses -- and have scored just nine runs over that span.

Mackanin acknowledged that this was the low point for his team, which owns the worst record in the majors at 16-30. Cincinnati starting pitcher Tim Adleman entered the game with a 6.19 ERA, but he pitched like an ace in holding the Phillies to just a first-inning single over his eight shutout innings. Adleman walked two, struck out four and at one point set down 16 straight Phillies. The 29-year-old right-hander has made 20 starts in his big-league career and this was by far the best.

"Yeah," Mackanin said when asked if the loss was the season's low point. "We need to step it up. We’re better than this. I know we’re better than this. We’ve just got to start playing as aggressive as we can and take it to the other team. Be aggressive at the plate and pound the strike zone."

That apparently was Mackanin's message to the club in his postgame meeting, though he would not talk about it.

"He just wants to see us play with a little more fire and a little more energy," Aaron Altherr said. "You know, it’s something we’ve got to do. Today wasn’t too great. But, like I said, hopefully we can right the ship and start winning some games again."

Tommy Joseph was tight-lipped on the content of the team meeting.

"That's basically stuff that was between us," he said. "There's a pretty good understanding that we need to get going in here and that was really it. I think the rest is pretty self-explanatory and what he had to say is between us.

"It's definitely not a lack of effort. Everybody is out there trying to get the job done. I think there are certain nights when the job is getting done. When things start to spark a little bit, everybody feeds off that. Obviously there are some nights where that doesn't happen. It's definitely not from a lack of effort. Everybody is going out there busting their ass, so it's just a matter of sometimes it goes our way and sometimes it doesn't."

Mackanin used slumping Odubel Herrera in the leadoff spot for the first time this season and he produced a ninth-inning double after Adleman exited. The Phillies actually loaded the bases with one out in the ninth, but a fielder's choice ground ball and then a strikeout by Maikel Franco, the potential tying run, ended the game. Franco struck out swinging wildly at a full-count breaking ball from Raisel Iglesias.

Joseph mentioned that Adleman changed speeds well and used a slight hesitation in his delivery to throw off hitters.

But was it more the pitcher or more just a bad offense?

"It’s hard to tell," Mackanin said. "That's a daily question. Are we not hitting the ball like we should or is the pitcher that good? It seems like I look up and every other pitcher we face has a 6.00 ERA, but I think it’s all because we’re missing good pitches to hit. We’re getting pitches to hit and we’re not hitting them."

Aaron Nola did not have a good start. He gave up a pair of homers in falling behind, 3-0, after two innings, and, obviously, there was no coming back, not with this offense.

The Philies are 5-18 in the month of May.

Or should we say Mayday?

"We’re trying to stay positive, as positive as we can throughout this stretch," Altherr said. "You know, it’s tough sometimes when things are going the way they are. We’re just going to keep being positive, keep trying to bring as much energy as we can to win some games."